EGW Teaches Satan bears our iniquities!

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One of the most disturbing things about Ellen White is that she teaches that Satan ultimately bears the iniquities of the world.  This is something I have refuted before by breaking down Leviticus 16 regarding the Day of Atonement.  If you want more information on this I recommend you read that post.  On this one I will only be focusing on one aspect of it.

Below notice that Ellen White teaches that Satan is the one bearing our sins and iniquities:

“It was seen, also, that while the sin offering pointed to Christ as a sacrifice, and the high priest represented Christ as a mediator, the scapegoat typified Satan, the author of sin, upon whom the sins of the truly penitent will finally be placed.” The Great Controversy, p. 422.

“As the priest, in removing the sins from the sanctuary, confessed them upon the head of the scapegoat, so Christ will place all these sins upon Satan, the originator and instigator of sin.”The Great Controversy, p. 485.

“Their sins are transferred to the originator of sin.” Testimonies for the Church, Vol. 5, p. 475.

Notice in particular she says the following:

“will finally be placed”

“place all these sins upon Satan”

“transferred to”

The problem with this is that if our sins exist to be transferred to another to bear then that means they were not truly finished at the cross.  You are looking at an incomplete atonement.  Which means that in an SDA worldview, the one who truly finishes the atonement is the devil, bearing the sins of the world.

The Bible doesn’t teach this at all.  Instead it says that all of our sins were placed upon Jesus Christ.

. . . and He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin and live to righteousness; for by His wounds you were healed 1 Peter 2:24 ESV

The next day he saw Jesus coming to him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!John 1:29 ESV

“…and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all.” Isaiah 53:6 ESV
Notice we see similar language here, but this time about Jesus!
“He Himself bore our sins”
“Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world”
“laid on him”
And that in this taking of our sins to death Jesus says that it is finished.

“When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit” John 19:30 ESV

“But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God” Hebrews 10:12 ESV

Not only were our iniquities placed on Christ and finished at the Cross, his work is referred to as a single sacrifice.  There are not multiple sacrifices, only one for everyone.  Satan doesn’t help Jesus pay for our sins like Ellen White teaches, Jesus finished it at the cross.

Because this work is complete the promise is assured now that we are saved.  We do not have to wait for Satan to finish the work.  It has already been done.

“For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.” 2 Cor 5:21 ESV

Notice that the above verse is in the past tense.  This has already been completed.

“and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which comes through faith in Christ, the righteousness from God that depends on faith” Php 3:9 ESV

“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” John 5:24 ESV

The work of Christ is finished and applies to us right now.  We do not have to wait for the completion of an investigative judgement where Satan bears our sins.  Christ has already already taken them to the grave.  Our sins our dead, and we are resurrected in newness of life in the shed blood of Christ.  Now, not at some point in the future after trusting in Satan like Ellen White is teaching.

 “I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life.” 1 Jn 5:13 ESV

Of all of the false teachings of Ellen White this is the greatest heresy that has ever come out of her.

This above all proves that she is a false prophet and should not be feared.

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26 Responses to EGW Teaches Satan bears our iniquities!

  1. Ezra says:

    What is the symbolism of the scapegoat in the sanctuary doctrine?

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  2. I know and believe this. This is why the devil has the sins… Our punishment in hell is placed on the devil because we have been forgiven and cleansed. True Jesus took and bore our sins. However the devil will face our punishment because he deserved it. That is why the last person to die is death( Satan himself) .

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    • Armchair Theologian says:

      I understand the scapegoat theory. The reason I reject it is that it is an assumption that makes Satan finish the atonement.

      The way type and shadow works, theologically, is you need an unclear verse in the old testament and a clear one in the new. 

      So you have the unclear scapegoat. Now show me a verse that says he is Satan in the new.

      Go

      You can’t there isn’t one. Jesus said the old testament is about him and I believe what he said.

      I cover these types and shadows in greater depth here:

      http://armchairtheologian.info/2015/10/28/the-day-of-atonement/

      It might come down to a different methodology. The reason I don’t take single words in the old testament and string wild assumptions to them is there is no end as to the conclusions I could come up with. I would be allowed to believe whatever I want. I’ll give an example.

      “and with his wounds we are healed.”
      Isaiah 53:5 ESV
      http://bible.com/59/isa.53.5.ESV

      Ero… Visa ve…. therefore….

      I should never get sick or injured or die because it says we are healed.

      Let’s ignore that the new testament defines this as the resurrection because I don’t want to believe that.

      The name for the scapegoat can have many reasons. It doesn’t have to represent an entity only an action. It doesnt have to respect chronology of events either as types and shadows rarely do. Just like the high priest humbling himself in plain attire to perform the ceremony represents the humbling of Christ in the incarnation, and the doning of his priestly attire the exaltation, so the scapegoat is our sins being separated as far from us as the east is from the west.

      Type and shadow is supposed to be unclear. God said it would be.

      And he said, “Hear my words: If there is a prophet among you, I the Lord make myself known to him in a vision; I speak with him in a dream. Not so with my servant Moses. He is faithful in all my house. With him I speak mouth to mouth, clearly, and not in riddles, and he beholds the form of the Lord . Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?”
      Numbers 12:6-8 ESV
      http://bible.com/59/num.12.6-8.ESV

      We are to expect the prophets words to be likeness and similitude. This isn’t an anachronistic interpretive construct. The Bible teaches this. So since Jesus says this:

      Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39 KJV

      And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. Luke 24:27 KJV

      I am pulling these from my notes sorry for the version flipping. But the point is Jesus said the old testament is about him. So putting the two together we expect unclear images about Jesus and or his action in the old testament. That is what we find with the scapegoat.

      Add that to not a single verse saying the scapegoat is Satan in the new testament and with respect there is just no basis for this.

      Also since taking it to its logical conclusion means Satan finishes the atonement you end up with the worst Christological heresy pretty much of all time.

      If you’re interested in types and shadows I put this together too. But it also demonstrates that chronology of events is irrelevant in type / antitype fulfilment.

      http://wp.me/p5hO3e-dh

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  3. Melini Moodley says:

    SDAs believe that Satan, and not they, are responsible for their sins. But the reality is that Satan cannot MAKE us sin.TThis premise is nothing but the old blame game theology in Genesis rearing it’s ugly head. Eve blamed the serpent. Adam blamed Eve and even God who had made Eve! Nobody took responsibility for their part in the rebellion against God. But God did not buy into their blame game theology and He punished each party as He saw fit. But because He is gracious and He is never taken by surprise He made a promise to Adam and Eve that the seed of the woman (Christ) would crush the head of the serpent. The SDA theory that Satan must carry the confessed sins of the saints on his head taken to its logical conclusion would mean none of us need to confess our sins because they’re all Satan’s fault anyway. It would mean that Christ died, not to put an end to sin, but merely to act as a conduit to transfer sins onto Satan! The SDA premise is outright blasphemous as it downgrades the importance of Christ’s sacrifice.

    A view that Christ both pays the penalty for our sin by bearing sin and it’s punishment and also removes sin by giving believers a new nature is more consistent with the full import of Scripture taken holistically.

    Great article! This doctrine of the SDAs was what really got me thinking and onto the path out of the movement.

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  4. Melini Moodley says:

    But each person is tempted when he is lured and enticed by his own desire. 15 Then desire when it has conceived gives birth to sin, and sin when it is fully grown brings forth death.

    Satan doesn’t MAKE anyone sin.He cannot ttherefore carry anyone’s sin. Our sins are not Satan’s fault or responsibility. Only when we accept the fact that we sinned can we appreciate God’s kindness toward us through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. A person who says “I sinned but it’s Satan’s fault I sinned” cannot appreciate the full import of what God has done for us through the substitutionary atonement work of Christ.

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  5. Stranger says:

    I’ve never seen anyone argue that Azazel doesn’t represent Satan before. You say Jesus is Azazel?!?! Wow

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    • ACTheologian says:

      Yeah he bears our sins, takes them as far away as the east is from the west.

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      • Stranger says:

        I agree Jesus bears our sins, but Jesus is Azazel? You gotta be crazy. I’ve never seen anyone so bold as to suggest that the Azazel is Jesus. Jews believe Azazel represents Satan, every Christian denomination says Azazel represents Satan. Wikipedia says Azazel represents Satan. A Google search for “Azazel” shows 100’s of references to Azazel being Satan, the Fallen Angel, the architect of sin. You are the first I’ve ever seen that gets it all backwards.

        Looking over your site it seems you have a strong hatred for SDA, are you sure you aren’t just disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, all because you have this hatred? Seems your judgement is very clouded.

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      • ACTheologian says:

        Well you’re misrepresenting me. I never said I hated SDA, and I never said I was “crazy”. So you’re either mistaken or lying. Please clarify.

        Second, the Bible says he was made to be sin. Simple as that. The name azazel is type and shadow of the sin Christ bore. This is common with Christological typology. With respect, I’d recommend you diversify and study some sources more orthodox than Wikipedia.

        For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
        2 Corinthians 5:21 ESV
        https://bible.com/bible/59/2co.5.21.ESV

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      • Stranger says:

        I have studied more Orthodox sources than Wikipedia, that was only one of many examples I used to express how wide spread the opposing view is. I still agree that Christ was made to bear our sins, but the Azazel is a different phase of the sanctuary process.
        I also never said that you said you were crazy nor did I say that you said you hated Adventists. I’m not sure why but it appears you are having trouble reading my very basic statements. Maybe it’s best to leave this discussion be as I can see it is very difficult to get any point across to you.

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      • ACTheologian says:

        Well you did make those statements and anyone can go to your comment and read them. I asked for clarification or apology and you only gave a straight denial then insulted my reading level.

        Jesus doesn’t divide type and shadow of the old testament into phases. I think you’re getting that from Ellen White and importing it into the text. Instead, in Leviticus 16 you see type and shadow of the incarnation, atonement, propitiation, and Christ being made sin for us, washed rinsed, and repeated over and over.

        By the time you get to the scapegoat in Lev 16 each of these themes has already played through a few times. There are no phases taking place after 1844 in the text.

        I already provided a Biblical rationale as to how I see azazel prefiguring the sin Christ became for us. You would agree that when he bore them on the cross he was taking something that impacts humanity ontologically to the grave with himself? Scapegoat.

        I’m sure you’ve read other literary works besides the Bible right? If it was a work of fiction we would call this foreshadow. Yet we know for a fact that the old testament was written long before the new. God has written type and shadow of himself on human history.

        I think the IJ cheapens this as it twists type and shadow of the cross to point to Satan instead. Whereas Jesus said the old testament pointed to himself.
        All of these temple practices point to the cross. That’s why Jesus said it was finished.

        You don’t need Satan to bear your sins friend. Jesus already did. Hey, Maybe we just disagree on the Sabbath. Whatever Okay? I do genuinely hope you’re not trusting in Satan to bear your sins at the close of probation.

        That’s not snark or parody. That’s what this false prophet Ellen White teaches. Its dead wrong and should be flatly rejected, not reconciled.

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      • ACTheologian says:

        This post digs into the typology of Leviticus 16 more. I want you to see that the approach I’m using can be consistently demonstrated in the chapter. I’m not making it up out of thin air.

        https://actheologian.com/2015/10/28/the-day-of-atonement/

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      • ACTheologian says:

        Please allow me to clarify one thing in my last comment. I brushed over it but I don’t want you to miss it. Internet comments can be imprecise.

        I thought of some helpful examples to show you why sequence and phasing isn’t a thing to be considered in biblical typology.

        Example 1

        In Leviticus 16 notice the lamb is slain outside while the high priest is in his nicest robes. Then when he proceeds to the most holy later he first dresses down to a Plainer garb. In this we see type and shadow of the incarnation. Christ emptying himself to provide atonement, and receiving a human nature from his mother. However in Leviticus the lamb had just bee slain. Yet we know the cross happened after the incarnation Right?

        Sequence isn’t necessarily a thing in type / and shadow fulfillment. These themes wash rinse and repeat.

        Example 2

        Joseph, as I’m sure you are aware, is a type of Christ in the old testament. We see his brothers cast him into a pitt to die and he is instead sold to gentiles and spared. In this we see type and shadow of Christ being slain by his brothers, Israelites, and then resurrected with the gospel then going out to the gentiles across the world.

        But later in the story this theme repeats with potifars wife. Joseph has to take the blame for a sin he didn’t commit and is cast into jail. He is later restored and presented by pharoah with all people’s submitting to his authority.

        Just as Christ died for sins he did not commit, resurrected, and is presented to us with all things in heaven and earth under his authority.

        Final Thoughts

        Notice though the themes repeat with different highlights. They move back and forth out of order but still giving us that “foreshadow”

        So to it is with the scapegoat. Remember, revelation says the lamb was slain from the foundations of the world. We know this to be in 33 AD, or close to it. But even still the Bible says from the foundations of the world.

        The point is even though we saw it happen in time our forgiveness comes to us outside of time. How could you expect sequence, phasing, and time to be a thing in a place where there is none?

        Hope I gave you some things to chew on and that I was clear. God bless.

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  6. Larry says:

    Stranger says:
    Seems your judgement is very clouded.
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    It appears you and your false prophetess have run afoul of 2 John 9-11, running ahead and not staying in the teachings of Christ, showing you do not have God. Every single JW, Darbyist, Mormon, SDA, Santeria (voodoo) and Muslim has the exact same spiritual deadness, and faith without obeying Jesus is dead, right? Be doers of His word and not merely hearers, so that you don’t deceive yourself, right? Boy was Jesus ever right when He taught “without Me you can do nothing”.

    You should go a little slow applying terms like “clouded judgement” to true Christians who are wise to SDA lies, rebellion, apostasy and disobedience. Romans 2 says you are condemned by your unscriptural judgement of others.

    Is this orthodox enough for you? Jesus taught He came to fulfill the scapegoat (LAW) and the prophets in Matt 5:17. Nowhere does He mention satan fulfilling the role of scapegoat. What truthful excuse can you offer for turning your ears deaf to His clear doctrine, besides your free-will, reprobate status? Will you be like the man without proper attire in Matt 22:13, thrown into darkness, weeping and gnashing your teeth? Doesn’t sound like annihilation does it? These are the rewards of the disobedient deception called Adventism that you freely chose. SDA’s are hardly the model of taking every thought captive to obey Christ!

    How about this orthodox teaching? Luke 21:22 Jesus taught that all that was written would be fulfilled when the disciplies saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies. The scapegoat is written (Lev 16) and all that was written was fulfilled around 1900 years ago. This precludes the devilish stronghold that satan would fulfill the role of LAW thousands of years after Jesus taught Luke 21:22
    Jesus’ plain words really do refute SDA religious liars.

    True Christians know that they worship Who the scapegoat prophesied, Jesus. Real Christians understand that those who teach otherwise are inadvertantly exposing who their god really is, the god of this world. This is because they have been deceived and Jesus taught several times not to be deceived. SDA’s are intent on deceiving and being deceived. Their systematic disobedience shows they are of the devil.

    Jesus also commanded His sheep to beware false prophets. Not only do SDA’s disobey Him on this, they sell a whole string of SDA false-prophetess books brimming with doctrines of demons.

    This satan-scapegoat teaching is actually a doctrine of demons, as Jesus never taught it! SDA’s teach a false christ, one that did not fulfill the scapegoat, which makes their teachings, ministers, and entire organization ANTICHRIST. If any SDA insists their teaching came from Holy Spirit, they blaspheme Him, which turns out to be unforgivable sin. It can be seen that Adventism is a vehicle for blaspheming Holy Spirit. Adventism is truely a pack of lies and will be burned up at the second coming. There is no reason to think there be any SDA’s in heaven.

    God must be really laughing hard at, and deriding the SDA’s (Psalms 2:4, 37:13), as after all their satanic teachings are promoted they claim they are commandment keepers! Yes, and especially the sabbath commandment! They can concoct an unscriptural christ (idolatry), bear false witness against the True Jesus (more commandment breaking), take His name in vain, steal, by spiritual fraud, tithes and offerings, dishonor my Father in heaven (breaking the 5th commandment), and so on This is 100% their own carnal, bad works and they revel in all these evil works on Saturday. They really think they are keeping something holy! Liars keep nothing holy. They could not be more deceived. Idolators keep nothing holy. Deceivableness keeps nothing holy. It is another lie that SDA’s keep sabbath holy, much less obey any of the other commands. They will be alarmed at their judgement, getting Rev22:18,19 as their reward for adding the idea of Sunday assembly into their teachings about Revelation! Unbeknownst to them, they are on the deceived waterslide to eternal torment and gnashing of teeth.

    And it all started by a few people disobeying Jesus at Matt 7:15 by not rejecting William Miller and his devilish teachings about 1844. What an absolute avalanche of disobedience and heresy has resulted. SDA’s reward for rebellion to Matt 7:15 can be found in verse 23. Do notice there is zero forgivess mentioned.

    It is righteous for true Christians to abhor and hate all perversions, lies, disobedience, fake sabbath keeping, satanic teachings and heresies of the  deceived people known as SDA’s. For sure God hates their entire system.
    Certainly Adventism is 100% sin.

    Real Christians do not endanger their salvation by scripturally identifying SDA teachers and promoters as ministers of satan. 2 Thess 11:4,13

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    • Jared warden says:

      What makes it most plain is that Jesus is a lamb and the devil a goat. It’s so plain and clear I cannot understand why you cannot see the logic?

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      • ACTheologian says:

        Typology doesn’t work that way friend. Jesus said that these texts point to himself. That is the basis for typology. It’s clear because Jesus says so not because it matches your sensibilities.

        So to turn that around, I don’t know why you feel it’s okay to reject the clear words of Christ.

        You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
        John 5:39 NASB

        Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.
        Luke 24:27 NASB

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      • Melini says:

        Actually the Leviticus 16 ceremony involves two goats, not a lamb and a goat. One is slain and the other has the sins of the people confessed over its head and it is then let loose in the wilderness. Read the chapter. So if Satan is represented by a goat, then the entire chapter must be about two devils then seeing as it speaks about two goats? That would be the logical conclusion to your statement.

        Yet Jesus is clear in both John 5 and Luke 24 that He is the focus of Scripture…satan isn’t. And Jesus is described as many things in Scripture, not solely and exclusively a lamb. He is also described as the Lion of three tribe of Judah, the Root of David, the Righteous Branch, the Rock, a cornerstone, the sun of righteousness, etc. So why can’t a goat symbolize Christ also?

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      • Melini says:

        It would be interesting to know where you are getting this interpretative rule or formula from, that lambs only symbolize or are a type of Christ and goats only symbolize or are a type of Satan. Especially since Christ did say that the focus of Scripture is about Himself. Goats were used in the sin offering in Leviticus… Did they symbolize Satan there too?

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      • Melini says:

        Also, if goats are a type or symbol of satan, then where do serpents and dragons fit in? What are they types or symbols of? And why does Revelation refer to Satan as “that old serpent”? Why not “that old goat?”

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      • ACTheologian says:

        And then there is the obvious issue that the SDA believe our sins still exist now, and that Satan bears whatever is incomplete to hell.

        Why believe that Satan bears or sins? Isn’t Jesus the one who died for us? Why do Satan ask me to trust in Satan with this belief?

        If SDA were consistent here they would have hymns praising Satan.

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      • Larry says:

        Jared, you have no scripture to back up your doctrine of demons. All you have is SELF, your say so. Jesus tell His sheep who can hear Him several times to deny SELF. Now please tell me from John 10:26,27 the real reason you are unable to hear, then obey Him:
        26 But because you are not My sheep, you refuse to believe.
        27 My sheep listen to My voice; I know them, and they follow Me.
        There is your reason. May God work the miracle of rebirth on you at some point!

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    • Larry says:

      Real Christians do not endanger their salvation by scripturally identifying SDA teachers and promoters as ministers of satan. 2 Thess 11:4,13
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      Should read 2 Cor 11:4,13-15

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  7. Larry says:

    General Reply to Demonic Teachings of the SDA Organization:
    Is this orthodox enough for Ellen White followers?
    Jesus taught He came to fulfill, 2000 years ago, the role of scapegoat (LAW) and the prophets (Daniel 8:14) in Matt 5:17. No mention of 1844 when He cried “It is finished”. Nowhere does He mention satan fulfilling the role of scapegoat or Dan 8:14 being fulfilled thousands of years in the future!
    What truthful excuse can you offer for turning your ears deaf to His clear doctrine, besides your free-will, vain-imagination, reprobate status?
    Will you be like the man without proper attire in Matt 22:13, thrown into darkness, weeping and gnashing your teeth? Doesn’t sound like annihilation does it? The man was speechless just as SDA’s are when forced to notice what Jesus actually taught.
    These are the rewards of the disobedient deception called Adventism that you freely chose. SDA’s are hardly the model of taking every thought captive to obey the doctrines of Christ!
    Those who teach the scapegoat is fulfilled by satan in the future are as deceived as Wm. Miller & Ellen White, and can be ID’d as false prophets / teachers. 2 Corinthians 11:4,13-15
    This satan-scapegoat teaching is actually a doctrine of demons from those masquarading as Christian, as Jesus never taught it! SDA’s teach a false christ, one that did not fulfill the scapegoat (LAW) or Daniel 8:14 (prophets), which makes their teachings, prophetess, ministers, and entire organization ANTICHRIST to Matt 5:17.
    SDA’s violate Jesus at Matt 11:13 as well. Jesus did not command you to think that the Law and Prophets were for well past John Baptist. SDA’s teach the exact opposite of Jesus, thereby dishonoring both Him and the Father, not to mention outraging Holy Spirit.
    If any SDA insists their teaching came from Holy Spirit, they blaspheme Him, which turns out to be unforgivable sin. It can be seen that Adventism is a vehicle for blaspheming Holy Spirit. Adventism is truly a pack of interlocking lies & disobedience ever since failed 2nd coming (false prophecy, deception) in 1844, and will be burned up at the second coming. There is no reason to think there will be any SDA’s in heaven. They are all quite rebelliously and stubbornly deceived by Wm Miller and subsequently Ellen White. Their rebellion and stubborness is accounted to them by God as witchcraft and idolatry (1 Samuel 15:23), hardly the paragon of 10 commandment keepers! They can pretend and deceive each other all they want, but the do not fool true Christ followers.
    And it all started by a few people disobeying Jesus at Matt 7:15 by not rejecting false prophet William Miller and his devilish prophecy about 1844. These same people were also not empowered to obey this verse by rejecting the subsequent Ellen White! What an absolute avalanche of disobedience and heresy has resulted. SDA’s reward for rebellion to Matt 7:15 can be found in verse 23. Do notice there is Z.E.R.O. forgivess mentioned. Do notice their faith without obeying Jesus (good works) is dead (James 2:17). Pretended, artificial, pick&choose sabbath keeping will get them nowhere. Their pretended love without truth is whoredom. Pretended belief is a satanic goat.
    It is righteous for true Christians to abhor and hate all perversions, lies, disobedience, fake sabbath keeping, satanic teachings and heresies of the deceived people known as SDA’s. Deceived people keep no sabbath holy. Liars keep nothing holy, not even sabbath. Christ disobeyers keep nothing holy. Spirit blasphemers keep nothing holy. For sure God hates the entire SDA system. Certainly Adventism is 100% sin. Adventism and Ellen White’s writings are absolutely vehicles for blaspheming Holy Spirit.
    Real Christians do not endanger their salvation by scripturally identifying SDA, Muslim, VooDoo, Mormon, Watchtower, and Scientology teachers and promoters as ministers of satan. 2 Thess 11:4,13-15
    SDA’s, Mormons, Muslims, etc, take pleasure in their waterslide to eternal torment in hell, via their demonic doctrines due to the unregenerated nature.
    Whoever desires to destroy this post is carnal and relying on their force of flesh to make these spiritual charges disappear. We know from Jer 17:5 that those who rely on the flesh are cursed. Have you been appointed by God (O Adventist) to prove yourself cursed?
    How do you know that blaspeming Holy Spirit is not the very same thing as getting the mark of the beast? Is there forgiveness for both? NO.
    How do you know you won’t blaspheme Holy Spirit (unforgivable sin) as you, Adventist, reach for that delete button in a cursed state ?? Will you credit Holy Spirit for your cursed, worldly beliefs and actions ?

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    • Larry says:

      Real Christians do not endanger their salvation by scripturally identifying SDA, Muslim, VooDoo, Mormon, Watchtower, and Scientology teachers and promoters as ministers of satan. 2 Thess 11:4,13-15
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      Should read 2 Cor 11:4,13-15

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  8. Larry says:

    ACTheologian says:
    March 18, 2018 at 8:14 am
    Why believe that Satan bears [Adventist] sins [and fulfills a tiny pinch of LAW at Leviticus 16]?

    Isn’t Jesus the one who died [and resurrected, and prophesied perfectly at Matt 5:17] for [those who He has enabled to strictly believe His prophecy at Matt 5:17]?

    Why do Satan[ists or Adventists] ask me to trust in Satan with their [unbiblical, satanic] belief?
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    SDA’s are acting out the lie that prophecy really reads like this:

    17 Do not think that satan and I came to destroy the LAW or the prophets. Satan and I did not come to destroy, but Satan will fulfill a fraction of it, and I came to fulfill most of it.
    18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tiddle will by no means pass from the law untill all is fulfilled, some of it by Satan.  Matt 5

    Millerites who became SDA’s were deceived into disobeying Jesus about the knowing of an 1844 date for the second coming. The exact same people deceived themselves into believing Jesus had overlooked Daniel 8:14 and forgot to mention its exclusion to having been fulfilled by His first coming 2000 years ago. Maybe He went back to His Father and realized He had prophesied falsely at Matt 5:17, that Daniel 8:14 was really about Him fulfilling something in 1844 !!

    Such a disobedient people who were unable to obey Matt 7:15-23 regarding Miller and Ellen White. Never once did they think they had been HAD by a series of false prophets! Never once do SDA’s properly consider themselves to be the false prophets they are!

    At their judgement of condemnation, SDA’s will have to answer this:
    46 Why do you call Me Lord, Lord and do not what I say?
    49 but the SDA who heard and did nothing built a house with no foundation, immediately it fell and its RUIN was great. Luke 6

    Notice no forgiveness mentioned for SDA’s in either Matt 7:23, Luke 6:46 or Rev 22:18-19. These are the same consequences as adding or subtracting from the book of Revelation, which SDA’s do by adding the idea of Sunday church being a mark of the beast, or falsely prophesying a National Sunday Law, or disobedient SDA’s being the remnant. Same consequences as taking the mark of the beast, no forgiveness mentioned. SDA’s cannot know that it is they (and Ellen White) who are in all the eternal danger they ascribe to others!

    That is why true Christians understand that SDA’ism is a disobedience trick from the devil, that Adventism is 100% sin, that the SDA-1844-concocted jesus did not live, die or resurrect, that their version of “jesus” is fabricated idolatry and forgives nobody, and that Adventism is a vehicle for blaspheming the Holy Spirit for which no forgiveness is mentioned.

    And they pretend the whole time they are able to keep sabbath holy! Liars, false prophets, and Christ disobeyers keep nothing holy! Real Christians are not deceived by the SDA’s.

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