The 2300 Year Prophecy

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This is the third post in a series on the Investigative Judgment, for the previous entry please click HERE.

The interpretation that the SDA Church uses with regards to Daniel 8:14 is another key component of the Investigative Judgment and will likely take several posts to cover properly.  If this verse could possibly be read in a way that doesn’t work for SDA theology that means that 1844 was just another year on the calendar and that nothing of any eschatological significance took place.

Before getting started lets take a close look at the verse in question:

“And he said to me, “For 2,300 evenings and mornings. Then the sanctuary shall be restored to its rightful state.” Daniel 8:14 ESV

There are numerous assumptions that come into play in the SDA interpretation of this verse but what I am going to focus on here is the concept of 2300 years. It is my assessment that this interpretation is predicated upon the following:

  1. That 2300 evenings and mornings means 2300 24 hour days
  2. That 2300 24 hour days really mean 2300 years
2300 evenings and mornings means 2300 24 hour days

I do not think that the most logical interpretation of Daniel 8:14 is 2300 days, but rather 2300 evenings and mornings.  In the King James, which was used by early Adventists it does say days.  But according to all of the commentary I have read on this verse the Hebrew says ‘evenings and mornings’.

Daniel 8.14

Source: Biblehub.com

In most places in scripture when a day is referenced the transliterated Hebrew word “yom” is used:

 Gen 1.5

Source: Biblehub.com

Working with the term evenings and mornings that would then mean 1150 24 hour days not 2300 as every day has one (1) evening and one (1) morning contained within it.

To be sure let us take a closer look at the preceding context of Daniel 8:14

“It became great, even as great as the Prince of the host. And the regular burnt offering was taken away from him, and the place of his sanctuary was overthrown. And a host will be given over to it together with the regular burnt offering because of transgression, and it will throw truth to the ground, and it will act and prosper. Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one who spoke, “For how long is the vision concerning the regular burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled underfoot?” Daniel 8:11-13 ESV

The most logical understanding of the evenings and mornings in Daniel 8:14 would then be the evening and morning sacrifices in which the “regular burnt offering” was given in the Old Covenant Temple.  It would therefore follow that 1150 24 hour days is a more accurate period of time than 2300 as we are talking about a numerical amount of evenings and mornings rather than straight days.  This is rather damaging to SDA doctrine because without the 2300 literal days they have no point with which to build their next premise.

2300 24 hour days really mean 2300 years 

As I have just shown above we don’t even have 2300 days anymore we have 1150.  But could Daniel 8:14 possibly mean 1150 years?  If that were the case then it would have ended a long time before 1844.  Even still, this is a critical thesis for SDA who claim that the ‘day to year principle’ is a key tool for unlocking prophecy.

I would argue that ‘day to year principle‘ isn’t even a thing.  This was an interpretive technique invented by scholars who favored a brand of eschatology called Historicism.  There is only one verse in the Bible that outright uses days to typify years and it is not even in an eschatological genre.

“According to the number of the days in which you spied out the land, forty days, a year for each day, you shall bear your iniquity forty years, and you shall know my displeasure.” Num 14:34 ESV

However we also see a day representing a thousand years:

“But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.” 2 Ptr 3:8 ESV

And a Basket:

“And Joseph answered and said, “This is its interpretation: the three baskets are three days.” Gen 40:18 ESV

And a 12 hour period of time:

“Jesus answered, “Are there not twelve hours in the day? If anyone walks in the day, he does not stumble, because he sees the light of this world.” John 11:9 ESV

And a branch:

“Then Joseph said to him, “This is its interpretation: the three branches are three days.” Gen 40:12 ESV

And a 24 hour period of time:

“And God called the expanse Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, the second day.” Gen 1:8 ESV

It seems clear to me that the hermenuetic for day to year principle is violating the logical fallacy of begging the question as it has already assumed 1844 and must use whichever verse in the bible it can to justify its existence.  Problem is by the same logic incorporated for day to year principle I could simply assert that a day is a thousand years (2 Ptr 3:8) so in 1,150,000 years from its start date we can expect fulfillment.  As far as I am concerned Daniel 8:14 is speaking of 1150 literal 24 hour days that would contain two (2) temple sacrifices at each end.  I see no Biblical reason to assume that any lens be placed on top of them.

The most common objection I will see to this argument I have just presented is that Daniel 8:17, within the context of the preceding verses is clear that the “vision is for the time of the end”.  The problem is that this passage does not define “time of the end”.  Does it mean time of the end of the age preceding the Advent of Christ?  Does it mean end of the world?  We can’t say for sure based only on verse 17.

Though I actually believe the end he is speaking of here is referring to Christ that is not my main point, and would go beyond the scope of this post.  My main point is that even if the referent of “the end” in verse 17 is eschatological that doesn’t transform verse 14 into years.  That would simply mean that we are still waiting on a little horn to trample the temple for 1150 days at some point in the future.  By no means can you pull 2300 years out of Daniel 8:14 unless you already have your mind made up ahead of time.

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9 Responses to The 2300 Year Prophecy

  1. James. says:

    I want to go over a few points individually here.

    So let’s begin. ..

    “It became great, even as great as the Prince of the host. And the regular burnt offering was taken away from him, and the place of his sanctuary was overthrown. And a host will be given over to it together with the regular burnt offering because of transgression, and it will throw truth to the ground, and it will act and prosper. Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one who spoke, “For how long is the vision concerning the regular burnt offering, the transgression that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and host to be trampled underfoot?” Daniel 8:11-13 ESV

    This is the interpretation of the text that you have taken for your case. But are you aware that ‘sacrifice’ is a supplied word and not present in the original text? So the ‘regular burnt offerings’ are none existent here.

    What is your defence?

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    • Armchair Theologian says:

      I have three points on that

      1) even if I am wrong and that the daily sacrifices are not in view the earthly temple plainly is.

      2) even if I am wrong about that, it wouldn’t automatically follow that 2300 years are in view. My point being, even if you disprove my rendering you still have to prove yours.

      3) though the word sacrifice isn’t in the text the meaning still is. If you have ever translated between languages you know that some words require two to translate properly. Don’t take my word for it. Double check on biblehub.com and you will see that one of the Hebrew words in use also means sacrifices.

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  2. Mama brightone says:

    Hey brethen, on the issue of judgement u got it the wrong way ,coz the bible states clearly in revalation 20:12-15″and i saw the dead ,small and great,standing before God,and books were opened.And another book was opened,which is the book of Life.And the dead were judge according to their works,by the things which were written in the books.The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and hades delivered up the dead who were in them.And they were judged,each according to his works.”So u can not go 2 enternal life jast like that,so for , everything u do in this life,whether good or bad,saved,or not saved ,you will be açcountable for it!

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    • Armchair Theologian says:

      That is the white throne judgement.

      Believers pass through that for it says we “shall not come into judgement”.

      In revelation you are seeing the wicked being judged. The are judged on their own works as the blood of Christ does not cover them.

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  3. Stewart says:

    thanks arm chair ,some of the responses here have made me understand better
    .am now following trying to read all your posts,they r many but worth my time,i see the salvation story differently now.

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  4. Roseline says:

    Please sir whatever you are doing infact is very detrimental to yourself. Stop lying kindly please. Even if you block me God is my witness i have said stop lying. Read your bible carefully and those Ellen white books you claim to be reading but wrongly quoting to suit what you wish to propagate. God will Hold you responsible even for those souls you have mislead. Repent and turn away from this sin

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    • Armchair Theologian says:

      Well thanks for commenting. If I have mishandled an Ellen White quote please demonstrate it. Shouldn’t be too hard. I strive to use proper pericope and context. Thanks.

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  5. RoseLine – I honestly do not agree with your assertion that Armchair Theologian is “lying.” Just because he does not agree with your understanding of religiosity how can that be construed as such. I put it to you that when one gets a much clearer understanding of the Scriptural New Covenant Gospel they find that their previous religiosity tends to mislead them considerably in the wrong direction. Agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

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